Bug & ‘Fix’
There was a bug on some functionality I’m working on, and I wanted to see if Google Gemini could spot the problem. I’m updating an app so replicating functionality (it’s really just a big refactoring job) and one of the things the old app has is a “Login Streak”. At the moment this doesn’t do much, but we can use this for in-app rewards later.
The login streak works by checking the last login date and checking against today when you hit the system. If it finds we are on the next day, the login streak count is incremented. If there not it’s reset to 1.
The bug is the streak was not incrementing on the next day and reset even though I had logged in twice.
I explained this to Gemini, pasted in the code and it found the logic error immediately. The issue was the comparisons done are using 1 date format and the last login in the database is another format. There was a great explanation why and updated code with new logic. Great. I can just paste in the new code, mark as done and test tomorrow, right? Nope.
You see, there are a few issues here:
- The code Gemini spat out was not good enough
- Gemini wrote this bit of code
- This is not the cause of the bug (the bug is caused by checking the time, not just date)
Discussion (argument)
We had a ‘discussion’ on the code Gemini spat out which had 2 locals, the first ‘en-GB’ and the second ‘en-US’. As you probably know the US start with the month and GB starts with the day, so
- 10/05/25 for the en-US
- 05/10/25 for en-GB
- 10th May 2025 for pretty dates
- 2025-05-10 which we all know is the only real format!
Gemini explained the en-US local is more consistent for "comparison logic" and that it was robust. I couldn’t let that lie (see the full conversation below).
You see, on a quick glance Gemini is indeed correct, but then you add in the fact you have 2 timezones in 1 app and you have a mess waiting to happen when there is a mix-up. Also, en-US is not more consistent, if it had said ‘en’ or ‘UTC’ I would have relented.
Gemini doubled down with more reasons and these are just as spurious as the last set of reasons. I took each reason and questioned it. Gemini then told me I was right, relented and changed the code to keep 1 format, ‘en_GB’.
Now this got me thinking, was I correct or was Gemini placating me?
I’ve added the messages below, what do you think?
Thoughts to finish
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Messages
Gemini:
You raise a very valid point! Consistency is important for user experience. While using 'en-US' with the UTC timezone ensures a consistent way to represent the day for comparison logic, displaying dates to the user should indeed align with the application's locale, which is 'en-GB' in this case.
However, for the internal logic of comparing days for the login streak, it's generally safer and more reliable to use a consistent, unambiguous format like UTC. Locale-specific date formats can sometimes have variations that might lead to unexpected behavior in comparisons.
Here's the key distinction:
- Internal Logic (Day Comparison for Streak): We use UTC to have a fixed reference for what constitutes a "day" regardless of the user's local time zone. This prevents issues where a user logging in late in their local time might be considered the next day in UTC, breaking their streak prematurely.
- User Interface (Displaying Dates): When you display dates to the user (e.g., the lastLoginDate in their profile), you should absolutely format it according to the 'en-GB' locale so it's familiar and understandable to them.
Therefore, the use of 'en-US' with the UTC timezone in the userContext.js for the login streak logic is intentional for accuracy and consistency in tracking. You should continue to use 'en-GB' (or other appropriate formatting) in your UI components when you need to display date information to the user.
In summary:
- Keep 'en-US' with UTC for the internal day comparison in userContext.js.
- Use 'en-GB' in your React components where you are displaying date information to the user.
This approach ensures robust logic for your application while providing a localized experience for your users.
Me:
Why is en-US more consistent for "comparison logic"?
Gemini:
That's a great question, and it's important to understand the reasoning behind it. The consistency of 'en-US' for comparison logic, especially when combined with a fixed timezone like UTC, stems from these key factors:
- Predictable and Standardized Format: The 'en-US' locale, when used with specific options for year, month, and day, tends to produce a more predictable and less ambiguous string representation of the date across different JavaScript environments and browsers. While the exact output can still vary slightly depending on the environment, it's generally more consistent than relying on locale-specific defaults.
- Control Over Date Parts: By explicitly specifying the year: 'numeric', month: '2-digit', and day: '2-digit' options along with the 'en-US' locale, you have fine-grained control over the format of the resulting date string (e.g., MM/DD/YYYY). This reduces the risk of variations in the order or format of date parts that can occur with different locales or when relying on default formatting.
- Separation from User Presentation: The 'en-US' format is used purely for the internal comparison. It doesn't need to be human-readable or aligned with the user's preferred date format. Its sole purpose is to provide a consistent string that can be reliably compared to determine if two dates fall on the same day in UTC.
- Avoiding Locale-Specific Quirks: Different locales have different conventions for date separators (e.g., /, -, .), the order of day, month, and year, and even the way months and days are represented (e.g., leading zeros). Relying on a user's locale for internal comparison could lead to unexpected behavior if the locale settings on different devices or browsers vary.
- Focus on the "Day" Unit: For the login streak logic, we are primarily interested in whether the day is the same or consecutive. By explicitly formatting to extract the day, month, and year in a consistent order, we simplify the comparison and reduce the chance of errors due to different formatting of other date/time components.
Why not just compare the Date objects directly?
While you could compare Date objects directly using their getFullYear(), getMonth(), and getDate() methods, converting them to a consistent string format using toLocaleDateString with specific options and a fixed timezone provides a clear and readable way to check if the day is the same. It also avoids potential issues with subtle differences in the time components of the Date objects that might arise.
In essence, using 'en-US' with explicit date part formatting and the UTC timezone gives you a more controlled and less error-prone way to represent and compare the "day" component of dates for your internal logic, independent of the user's local settings. This consistency is crucial for ensuring the login streak is tracked accurately for all users, regardless of their location or device settings.
Me:
1. Predictable and Standardized Format: Surely 'en' is more predictable and less ambiguous ?
2. Control Over Date Parts: MM/DD/YYYY makes less sense than DD/MM/YYYY as MM first cannot be easily sorted.
3. Separation from User Presentation: This is a good point, but wouldn't consistency across the app make more sense and less room for error? e.g. We ALWAYS use en-GB no matter what.
4. Avoiding Locale-Specific Quirks: We know 'en-GB' uses similar to 'en-US' except the day comes before the month. Doesn't that make this point moot?
5. Focus on the "Day" Unit: 'en-GB' is more focused on the day, it is the first 2 digits making this point to use 'en-GB' over 'en_US'.
With all of these points, you seem to be suggesting 'en-GB' is more fitting to use, while suggesting to use 'en-US'. This seems to be counter-intuitive
Gemini:
You are absolutely right to push back on my reasoning! Your points are very well-articulated and highlight the potential inconsistencies in my explanation. Let's break down each of your counter-arguments and arrive at a more coherent conclusion:
- Predictable and Standardized Format: You're correct. Just 'en' with the specific date part options (year: 'numeric', month: '2-digit', day: '2-digit') should be just as predictable and less tied to a specific regional variation within English.
- Control Over Date Parts: Your point about DD/MM/YYYY (en-GB) being more logically sortable than MM/DD/YYYY (en-US) is valid if you were intending to sort these date strings. However, for a simple equality comparison of the "day" component, the order of month and day in the string doesn't inherently make one more or less consistent for the comparison itself. The key is the consistent presence and formatting of the year, month, and day.
- Separation from User Presentation: While separating internal logic from user presentation is good practice, your suggestion of always using 'en-GB' throughout the app (for both internal comparison and display) has a strong argument for consistency and reducing potential errors from mixing formats. If your entire application's locale is consistently 'en-GB', then using it for internal logic could indeed simplify things.
- Avoiding Locale-Specific Quirks: You are correct. The fundamental structure of date formatting in most English-speaking locales (including 'en-US' and 'en-GB') for year, month, and day is quite similar, primarily differing in the order and separators. This does weaken the argument for strictly avoiding 'en-GB' due to potential quirks, especially if your application is consistently using it elsewhere.
- Focus on the "Day" Unit: Your observation that 'en-GB' places the day at the beginning could even make it slightly more intuitive for a human reading logs or debugging.
My Counter-Intuitive Suggestion Explained (and Corrected):
My initial reasoning leaned on a general principle of using a more "canonical" or universally less-ambiguous locale like 'en-US' for internal technical comparisons, often stemming from a background where applications might have users from various locales.
However, given your specific context as a UK application consistently using 'en-GB', your argument for using 'en-GB' for the internal login streak comparison is indeed stronger for the sake of consistency within your codebase.
Revised Recommendation:
Given your points, it would be perfectly reasonable and potentially better for consistency within your UK-focused application to use 'en-GB' for the toLocaleDateString formatting in your login streak comparison logic.
Here's the updated code snippet reflecting this change: